World Building

The intended purpose of this page is to catch the overflow of ideas that have more to do with the supporting plots and characters of the story, therefore, this page will be an ever expanding galaxy of information. Each character and plot can stand alone, but it is how it works back in to the main plot that is important. Often times, most times, the plot-path of one character will have an impact on another two or three. The story is connected.

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Yes, this is a generic picture of a spider web that I chose to illustrate my generic point  😉 

You cannot undo one strand of the web without destroying the structure… just as you need a new strand to support two or three others. It can only support itself when each part works with another together.

And just a reminder that at any point on any page I may include information from all A Song of Ice and Fire books, including the supporting novellas, as well as information from any and all of George RR Martin’s work and interviews. Now, read on good friends!

At the moment of this post, I think I am just going to write away and then post the links here.

  1. Tormund is the Horn of Winter
  2. Where did Aegon/Young Griff come from?

 

And to place a list of ideas that are going to be expanded further… I just do not want to lose them before I can type them out properly.

  1. I think the big converging we see in the future of the story is Bran and Daenerys coming to a “game of mind” battle. These two are really more in training for each other than any two characters in the story. Bran drank from the cup of ice, Daenerys drank from the cup of fire. This discussion was started here, but I will expand on it more in this blog when I can.
  2. A little wordplay
    • pyre-pyro-pyramid… volcano, Doom of Valyria, dragons in and on the pyramids, and Daenerys in Meereen acting god-like.
    • tower-tree-tuition (knowledge)… old gods, weirwood, ice magic, the Citadel, Bran, Jon, Hardin’s Tower, library at Winterfell, Odin and Yggdrasil, etc.
  3. Breaking down of the word “tower”
    • The Tower tarot card, and picture. Yes, GRRM knows about tarot as his wife, Parris, is mentioned and pictured on his blog as a reader of tarot.
      • This Tower tarot really reminds me of (not-so) Good Queen Alysanne messing up the north and northern magics by sealing off Nightfort (Black Gate) and diverting Night’s Watch attention elsewhere with her jewels. This includes the flaking gold crown at Queenscrown.
      • The Tower is commonly interpreted as meaning danger, crisis, sudden change, destruction, higher learning (tuition), and liberation. In the Rider-Waite deck, the top of The Tower is a crown, which symbolizes materialistic thought being bought cheap.
      • In some Belgian tarots and the 17th century tarot of Jacques Viéville, the card is called La Foudre or La Fouldre, (“The Lightning”) and depicts a tree being struck by lightning.
      • Also the fire (symbolic or literal) atop a tower is something we see repeated in ASOAIF.
    • The Virgin Mary is a Lyanna parallel that Martin draws on from his Catholic background, and she is often compared to a tower. For instance, the Tower of David stood prominently and strongly on the highest summit of the mountains surrounding Jerusalem.  Such a tower was part of the defense mechanism of the city.  From it, warnings would be given of approaching enemies.  Mary is compared to the Tower of David because of her holiness, being recognized as full of grace and having been conceived free of original sin.
    • Tor is a Nordic masculine given name derived from the name of the Norse god Thor.
    • Sir Tor, a Knight of the Round Table.
    • Old English torr tower, watchtower,” from Latin turris “a tower, citadel, high structure” (also source of Old French tor, 11c., Modern French tour; Spanish, Italian torre “tower”), possibly from a pre-Indo-European Mediterranean language. Meaning “lofty pile or mass” is recorded from mid-14c. Also borrowed separately 13c. as tour, from Old French tur; the modern spelling (1520s) represents a merger of the two forms.
      • Torr/watchtower = watcher on the walls?
      • Torr= Tormund “Tall-talker”. Tormund is a wealth of knowledge to Jon now, and most likely in the near future.
      • Torrhen Stark, the king who knelt to a fire dragon = the tree was burned by dragon flame. This reminds me of the in-story mention how trees despise fire:
        • A Storm of Swords – Arya VIII

          “She will leave on the morrow, with us,” Lord Beric assured the little woman. “We’re taking her to Riverrun, to her mother.”

          “Nay,” said the dwarf. “You’re not. The black fish holds the rivers now. If it’s the mother you want, seek her at the Twins. For there’s to be a wedding.” She cackled again. “Look in your fires, pink priest, and you will see. Not now, though, not here, you’ll see nothing here. This place belongs to the old gods still . . . they linger here as I do, shrunken and feeble but not yet dead. Nor do they love the flames. For the oak recalls the acorn, the acorn dreams the oak, the stump lives in them both. And they remember when the First Men came with fire in their fists.” She drank the last of the wine in four long swallows, flung the skin aside, and pointed her stick at Lord Beric. “I’ll have my payment now. I’ll have the song you promised me.”

    • More etymology, this time seems to be related to Sansa in the Vale: c. 1400, “rise high” (implied in towered); see tower (n.). Also, of hawks, “to fly high so as to swoop down on prey” (1590s). Related: Towering.
      • crackpot: Joseph Leidy (pronounced “lady”) was part of the inspiration for why Sansa named her direwolf Lady. This also circles back to tree=tower=knowledge. Joseph was an extraordinarily intelligent man, including describing the holotype specimens of the dire wolf (Canis dirus) (Stark, Lady, herself), among many others. There are even a few direwolf species that include the name Leidy in the scientific name.
    • Also, GRRM loves his comic books. There was a Tor comic character around when he was a boy reading such stories. The series’ protagonist, Tor, is a prehistoric cave man who has fantasy adventures set in a realistically drawn setting. The original series only ran for five issues and ended in 1954. However, “Tor” was revived by DC Comics in June 1975 for six issues. In June 1993 Marvel Comics released new adventures of Tor. This could explain why and how we have those Valyrian monkies described in ASOIAF.
  4. A sigil is a term that GRRM uses in his ASOIAF series not in place of a traditional crest, heraldry, or coat of arms, but as foreshadowing. Different terms altogether. A sigil is a symbol used in magic. The term has usually referred to a type of pictorial signature of a demon or other entity; in modern usage, especially in the context of chaos magic, it refers to a symbolic representation of the magician’s desired outcome.

    • sig·il
      ˈsijəl/
      noun
      noun: sigil; plural noun: sigils
      1. an inscribed or painted symbol considered to have magical power.
        • archaic
          a seal.
          “the supply wains bore the High King’s sigil”
        • literary
          a sign or symbol.
  5. HODOR- I believe a possible inspiration for Hodor is Saint Christopher. The story revolves around a man who carries the christ child across a river. Well, the wall is a river and going into the true north is part of going into the sea/greenseeing/etc. His most famous legend, which is mainly known from the West and may draw from Ancient Greek mythology, tells that he carried a child, who was unknown to him, across a river before the child revealed himself as Christ. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Christopher
  6. Ashara Dayne was probably based to a large degree on Asherah of biblical times. https://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/asherahasherim-bible
  7. Blood Oranges in ASOIAF that Dorian Martell has connection to could be based on an older erotic tale. The Blood Oranges is a 1997 erotic drama film directed by Philip Haas. This was Haas’s third feature film, which is based on the 1970 erotic cult novel by John Hawkes. The film depicts two western couples, one with children, coming together in the fictional Mediterranean village of Ilyria, and explores the perils of swinging between married couples.
    • So we have Illyria that could be where Illyrio got his name.
    • We have the idea that the story is an erotic tale, which could be why the Martells and Dornish were written as more hot blooded sexually.
    • This could also be the protoype idea as to why Illyrio and Varys are trying to save baby Aegon and return him to the throne at this point in Aegon’s life. I believe Aegon/Young Griff is the real baby Aegon.
  8. Meaning of name Julian= Jove, Jupiter.
  9. Summerhall, which sorta parallels Winterfell. I came across something interesting a while ago that is not even ASOIAF related… or so it seemed. I have not had time to analyze the entire thing, but so far there are some well known connections of Summerhall to Pandemonium, and the related, Paradise Lost.
    Some things, aside from the literal pandemonium the tragedy caused, include:

    • Sun and Moon deities
    • Zoroastrianism
    • A picture of Paradise Lost (note the horned god, fire, and lightening) compared to a pic of Summerhall
    • Both sources are called “hell”, and in the story we know the Maggie line about, “I gorged on grief at Summerhall.”
    • Both are also called/referred to as “little deamon”, or the “little demon”
      Pandemonium is described as, “The demons built it in about an hour, but it far surpassed all human palaces or dwellings; it may have been small, however, as the demons are described as shrinking from their titanic size in order to fit in.”
      Summerhall is described as lavish and such, and the dragons in the story had dwindled in size and eventually went “extinct”.
    • Creation myths
      Birth of the Horse Twins from the grain/horse mother (Cox, p. 234, found in 7/11 language groups, which is a very conservative statistic)
      Danu killed and cut open to produce a river (a parturition creation myth, 3/11)
    • Cyclic myths
      Spring kills Winter, usually with his sprinkler or his striker (Cox, p. 559, found in 4/11 language groups)
      Cloud/cows stolen from the sun god by the wind god and then released (Cox, p. 232, 4/11)
      Death and rebirth of the (often grain-associated) life-death-rebirth deity causes the seasons; Frazer calls him the “Dying Corn God” (Frazer, Vol. 8 and 9 of the Golden Bough esp. Vol. 9, pp. 412–423; 4/11)
      Uncle Water melts the ice and releases the water causing flooding (Gamkrelidze and Ivanov 1995, 5/11)
      Quest of the golden apples of immortality, usually by a wind god (Cox, p. 512, 4/11)<<< This is Sansa, and a Sansa is an apple!!!
      So yeah, I guess Summerhall is kind of a “thin” place and that could be why Rhaegar went there to brood and think about his lost family?
  10. I really cannot shake the feeling that Daenerys Stormborn is either really Robert Baratheon’s daughter (most likely NOT, admittedly), and that Daenerys is coming back as the Storm God as Jon is “coming back” from his under-the-sea/beneath the waves, ice magic, third eye opening which makes him the Drowned God (figuratively), and the two will continue the eternal struggle between the forces in the next Dance of Dragons GRRM has promised. The text says, “The Drowned God and the Storm God are said to have been at war against one another for “a thousand thousand years,” but I tend to believe that the thousand thousand years is just a fanciful storytelling way of saying generation after generation.

 

 

I welcome discussion in the comments section, but I do ask you show respect for alternative ideas and that you stay on topic. As this is an ever evolving site, any new information and credits will be given when credit is due.